Title:
TURBINE SECTION OF HIGH BYPASS TURBOFAN
Kind Code:
A1


Abstract:
A turbofan engine has an engine case and a gaspath through the engine case. A fan has a circumferential array of fan blades. The engine further has a compressor, a combustor, a gas generating turbine, and a low pressure turbine section. A speed reduction mechanism couples the low pressure turbine section to the fan. A bypass area ratio is greater than about 6.0. The low pressure turbine section airfoil count to bypass area ratio is below about 170.



Inventors:
Adams, Paul R. (Glastonbury, CT, US)
Magge, Shankar S. (South Windsor, CT, US)
Staubach, Joseph Brent (Colchester, CT, US)
Wesley, Lord. K. (South Glastonbury, CT, US)
Schwarz, Frederick M. (Glastonbury, CT, US)
Suciu, Gabriel L. (Glastonbury, CT, US)
Application Number:
15/292249
Publication Date:
02/16/2017
Filing Date:
10/13/2016
Assignee:
United Technologies Corporation (Farmington, CT, US)
Primary Class:
International Classes:
F02C7/36; F02C3/107; F02C9/18
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Primary Examiner:
NGUYEN, ANDREW H
Attorney, Agent or Firm:
CARLSON, GASKEY & OLDS/PRATT & WHITNEY (Birmingham, MI, US)
Claims:
1. A turbofan engine comprising: a fan including a circumferential array of fan blades, and a core including a core flowpath, the fan configured to communicate a portion of air into the core flowpath and a portion of air into a bypass flowpath; a compressor in fluid communication with the fan, the compressor including a low pressure compressor section and a high pressure compressor section, the low pressure compressor section including a low pressure compressor section inlet with a low pressure compressor section inlet annulus area; a fan duct including a fan duct annulus area outboard of the low pressure compressor section inlet, wherein the ratio of the fan duct annulus area to the low pressure compressor section inlet annulus area defines a bypass area ratio that is greater than 8.0; a combustor in fluid communication with the compressor; a shaft assembly having a high portion and a low portion; a turbine in fluid communication with the combustor, the turbine having a high pressure turbine section coupled to the high portion of the shaft assembly to drive the high pressure compressor section, and a low pressure turbine section coupled to the low portion of the shaft assembly to drive the fan, the low pressure turbine section including blades and vanes, and a low pressure turbine airfoil count defined as the numerical count of all of the blades and vanes in the low pressure turbine section; wherein a ratio of the low pressure turbine airfoil count to the bypass area ratio is less than 150; wherein the low pressure turbine section further includes a maximum gas path radius and the fan blades include a maximum radius, and a ratio of the maximum gas path radius to the maximum radius of the fan blades is less than 0.55; and an epicyclic gearbox coupled to the fan and rotatable by the low pressure turbine section through the low portion of the shaft assembly to allow the low pressure turbine to turn faster than the fan, the gearbox having a speed reduction ratio between 2:1 and 13:1 determined by the ratio of diameters within the gearbox; wherein each of the low pressure compressor section, high pressure compressor section, low pressure turbine section and high pressure turbine section include a plurality of stages, wherein: each of the plurality of stages of the low pressure turbine includes a disk, and a circumferential array of blades extend from the disk, each of the blades including an airfoil extending from a platform at an inner diameter, to an outer diameter shroud, the shroud having an outboard seal which seals with an abradable fixed seal.

2. The turbofan engine as recited in claim 1, wherein the sum of the plurality of stages of the low pressure compressor section, high pressure compressor section, low pressure turbine section and high pressure turbine section is no less than seventeen and no more than twenty one.

3. The turbofan engine as recited in claim 2, wherein the high pressure turbine is a two-stage high pressure turbine.

4. The turbofan engine as recited in claim 3, wherein the plurality of stages of the low pressure turbine is no less than two and no more than five.

5. The turbofan engine as recited in claim 4, wherein the low pressure turbine is a four-stage low pressure turbine.

6. The turbofan engine as recited in claim 5, wherein the sum of the plurality of stages of the low pressure compressor section, high pressure compressor section, low pressure turbine section and high pressure turbine section is twenty one.

7. The turbofan engine as recited in claim 4, wherein the sum of the plurality of stages of the low pressure compressor section, high pressure compressor section, low pressure turbine section and high pressure turbine section is no less than eighteen and no more than twenty.

8. The turbofan engine as recited in claim 7, wherein the low pressure compressor is a four-stage low pressure compressor.

9. The turbofan engine as recited in claim 7, wherein the high pressure compressor is a nine-stage high pressure compressor.

10. The turbofan engine as recited in claim 1, wherein the low pressure turbine is a four-stage low pressure turbine and the high pressure turbine is a two-stage high pressure turbine.

11. The turbofan engine as recited in claim 10, further comprising a fan case and vanes, the fan case encircling the fan and supported by the vanes.

12. The turbofan engine as recited in claim 11, wherein the gearbox is a planetary gearbox.

13. The turbofan engine as recited in claim 12, wherein the gearbox carries a plurality of gears associated with journals.

14. The turbofan engine as recited in claim 12, further comprising an engine intermediate case, including an engine forward mount location configured to support an engine mount when the engine is mounted, and an engine thrust case including an engine aft mount location configured to support an engine mount and react at least a thrust load when the engine is mounted.

15. The turbofan engine as recited in claim 11, wherein the gearbox is a star gearbox and includes a sun gear, a ring gear, and a carrier that carries a plurality of star gears positioned between and enmeshed with the sun gear and ring gear, the star gears having associated journals.

16. The turbofan engine as recited in claim 11, wherein a plurality of the fan blades are mounted in a fixed relationship to a hub.

17. The turbofan engine as recited in claim 1, wherein the low pressure turbine includes a plurality of rows of the blades, and a row of the vanes intermediate a plurality of the rows of the blades.

18. A turbofan engine comprising: a fan including a circumferential array of fan blades, and a core including a core flowpath, the fan configured to communicate a portion of air into the core flowpath and a portion of air into a bypass flowpath; a compressor in fluid communication with the fan, the compressor including a low pressure compressor section and a high pressure compressor section, the low pressure compressor section including a low pressure compressor section inlet with a low pressure compressor section inlet annulus area; a fan duct including a fan duct annulus area outboard of the low pressure compressor section inlet, wherein the ratio of the fan duct annulus area to the low pressure compressor section inlet annulus area defines a bypass area ratio that is greater than 8.0; a combustor in fluid communication with the compressor; a shaft assembly having a high portion and a low portion; a turbine in fluid communication with the combustor, the turbine having a high pressure turbine section coupled to the high portion of the shaft assembly to drive the high pressure compressor section, and a low pressure turbine section coupled to the low portion of the shaft assembly to drive the fan, the low pressure turbine section including blades and vanes, and a low pressure turbine airfoil count defined as the numerical count of all of the blades and vanes in the low pressure turbine section; wherein a ratio of the low pressure turbine airfoil count to the bypass area ratio is less than 150; wherein the low pressure turbine section further includes a maximum gas path radius and the fan blades include a maximum radius, and a ratio of the maximum gas path radius to the maximum radius of the fan blades is less than 0.55; wherein each of the low pressure compressor section, high pressure compressor section, low pressure turbine section and high pressure turbine section include a plurality of stages, and the sum of such stages being no less than seventeen and no more than twenty one; and an epicyclic planetary gearbox coupled to the fan and rotatable by the low pressure turbine section through the low portion of the shaft assembly to allow the low pressure turbine to turn faster than the fan, the gearbox having a speed reduction ratio between 2:1 and 13:1 determined by the ratio of diameters within the gearbox.

19. The turbofan engine as recited in claim 18, wherein the sum of the plurality of stages of the low pressure compressor section, high pressure compressor section, low pressure turbine section and high pressure turbine section is no less than eighteen and no more than twenty.

20. The turbofan engine as recited in claim 19, wherein the sum of the plurality of stages of the low pressure compressor section, high pressure compressor section, low pressure turbine section and high pressure turbine section is no less than eighteen and no more than nineteen.

21. The turbofan engine as recited in claim 20, wherein the high pressure turbine is a two-stage high pressure turbine.

22. The turbofan engine as recited in claim 21, wherein the low pressure turbine is a four-stage low pressure turbine.

23. The turbofan engine as recited in claim 22, further comprising an engine intermediate case, including an engine forward mount location configured to support an engine mount when the engine is mounted, and an engine thrust case including an engine aft mount location configured to support an engine mount and react at least a thrust load when the engine is mounted.

24. The turbofan engine as recited in claim 18, wherein the low pressure turbine is a four-stage low pressure turbine and the high pressure turbine is a two-stage high pressure turbine.

25. The turbofan engine as recited in claim 24, wherein the low pressure compressor is a four-stage low pressure compressor.

26. The turbofan engine as recited in claim 25, wherein the high pressure compressor is a nine-stage high pressure compressor.

27. The turbofan engine as recited in claim 24, wherein the blades in the low pressure turbine include an airfoil extending from an inner diameter platform to an outer diameter shroud, and the shroud has an outboard seal which seals with an abradable fixed seal.

28. The turbofan engine as recited in claim 18, further comprising a fan case and vanes, the fan case encircling the fan and supported by the vanes, and wherein the gearbox is a planetary gearbox.

29. The turbofan engine as recited in claim 28, wherein each fan blade includes a platform and an outboard end having a free tip, and is fixed in position between the platform and the free tip.

30. The turbofan engine as recited in claim 29, further comprising an engine intermediate case, including an engine forward mount location configured to support an engine mount when the engine is mounted, and an engine thrust case including an engine aft mount location configured to support an engine mount and react at least a thrust load when the engine is mounted.

Description:

CROSS-REFERENCE TO RELATED APPLICATION

This application is a continuation of U.S. patent application Ser. No. 14/793,785, filed Jul. 8, 2015, which is a continuation-in-part of U.S. patent application Ser. No. 14/692,090, filed Apr. 21, 2015, which was a continuation of U.S. patent application Ser. No. 13/599,175, filed Aug. 30, 2012, which was a continuation of U.S. patent application Ser. No. 13/475,252, filed May 18, 2012, now U.S. Pat. No. 8,844,265, issued Sep. 30, 2014, which was a continuation-in-part of U.S. patent application Ser. No. 11/832,107, filed Aug. 1, 2007, and claimed the benefit of U.S. Patent Provisional Application No. 61/593,190, filed Jan. 31, 2012, and U.S. Provisional Application No. 61/498,516, filed Jun. 17, 2011.

BACKGROUND

The disclosure relates to turbofan engines. More particularly, the disclosure relates to low pressure turbine sections of turbofan engines which power the fans via a speed reduction mechanism.

There has been a trend toward increasing bypass ratio in gas turbine engines. This is discussed further below. There has generally been a correlation between certain characteristics of bypass and the diameter of the low pressure turbine section sections of turbofan engines.

SUMMARY

One aspect of the disclosure involves a turbofan engine having an engine case and a gaspath through the engine case. A fan has a circumferential array of fan blades. The engine further has a compressor in fluid communication with the fan, a combustor in fluid communication with the compressor, a turbine in fluid communication with the combustor, wherein the turbine includes a low pressure turbine section having 3 to 6 blade stages. A speed reduction mechanism couples the low pressure turbine section to the fan. A bypass area ratio is greater than about 6.0. A ratio of the total number of airfoils in the low pressure turbine section divided by the bypass area ratio is less than about 170, said low pressure turbine section airfoil count being the total number of blade airfoils and vane airfoils of the low pressure turbine section.

In additional or alternative embodiments of any of the foregoing embodiments, the bypass area ratio may be greater than about 8.0 or may be between about 8.0 and about 20.0.

In additional or alternative embodiments of any of the foregoing embodiments, a fan case may encircle the fan blades radially outboard of the engine case.

In additional or alternative embodiments of any of the foregoing embodiments, the compressor may comprise a low pressure compressor section and a high pressure compressor section.

In additional or alternative embodiments of any of the foregoing embodiments, the blades of the low pressure compressor section and low pressure turbine section may share a low shaft.

In additional or alternative embodiments of any of the foregoing embodiments, the high pressure compressor section and a high pressure turbine section of the turbine may share a high shaft.

In additional or alternative embodiments of any of the foregoing embodiments, there are no additional compressor or turbine sections.

In additional or alternative embodiments of any of the foregoing embodiments, the speed reduction mechanism may comprise an epicyclic transmission coupling the low speed shaft to a fan shaft to drive the fan with a speed reduction.

In additional or alternative embodiments of any of the foregoing embodiments, the low pressure turbine section may have an exemplary 2 to 6 blade stages or 2 to 3 blade stages.

In additional or alternative embodiments of any of the foregoing embodiments, a hub-to-tip ratio (RI:RO) of the low pressure turbine section may be between about 0.4 and about 0.5 measured at the maximum RO axial location in the low pressure turbine section.

In additional or alternative embodiments of any of the foregoing embodiments, a ratio of maximum gaspath radius along the low pressure turbine section to maximum radius of the fan may be less than about 0.55, or less than about 0.50, or between about 0.35 and about 0.50.

In additional or alternative embodiments of any of the foregoing embodiments, the ratio of low pressure turbine section airfoil count to bypass area ratio may be between about 10 and about 150.

In additional or alternative embodiments of any of the foregoing embodiments, the airfoil count of the low pressure turbine section may be below about 1600.

In additional or alternative embodiments of any of the foregoing embodiments, the engine may be in combination with a mounting arrangement (e.g., of an engine pylon) wherein an aft mount reacts at least a thrust load.

The details of one or more embodiments are set forth in the accompanying drawings and the description below. Other features, objects, and advantages will be apparent from the description and drawings, and from the claims.

BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF THE DRAWINGS

FIG. 1 is an axial sectional view of a turbofan engine.

FIG. 2 is an axial sectional view of a low pressure turbine section of the engine of FIG. 1.

FIG. 3 is transverse sectional view of transmission of the engine of FIG. 1.

FIG. 4 shows another embodiment.

FIG. 5 shows yet another embodiment.

Like reference numbers and designations in the various drawings indicate like elements.

DETAILED DESCRIPTION

FIG. 1 shows a turbofan engine 20 having a main housing (engine case) 22 containing a rotor shaft assembly 23. An exemplary engine is a high-bypass turbofan. In such an engine, the normal cruise condition bypass area ratio of air mass flowing outside the case 22 (e.g., the compressor sections and combustor) to air mass passing through the case 22 is typically in excess of about 4.0 and, more narrowly, typically between about 4.0 and about 12.0. Via high 24 and low 25 shaft portions of the shaft assembly 23, a high pressure turbine section (gas generating turbine) 26 and a low pressure turbine section 27 respectively drive a high pressure compressor section 28 and a low pressure compressor section 30. As used herein, the high pressure turbine section experiences higher pressures that the low pressure turbine section. A low pressure turbine section is a section that powers a fan 42. Although a two-spool (plus fan) engine is shown, one of many alternative variations involves a three-spool (plus fan) engine wherein an intermediate spool comprises an intermediate pressure compressor between the low fan and high pressure compressor section and an intermediate pressure turbine between the high pressure turbine section and low pressure turbine section.

The engine extends along a longitudinal axis 500 from a fore end to an aft end. Adjacent the fore end, a shroud (fan case) 40 encircles the fan 42 and is supported by vanes 44. An aerodynamic nacelle around the fan case is shown and an aerodynamic nacelle 45 around the engine case is shown.

The low shaft portion 25 of the rotor shaft assembly 23 drives the fan 42 through a speed reduction mechanism 46. An exemplary speed reduction mechanism is an epicyclic transmission, namely a star or planetary gear system. As is discussed further below, an inlet airflow 520 entering the nacelle is divided into a portion 522 passing along a core flowpath 524 and a bypass portion 526 passing along a bypass flowpath 528. With the exception of diversions such as cooling air, etc., flow along the core flowpath sequentially passes through the low pressure compressor section, high pressure compressor section, a combustor 48, the high pressure turbine section, and the low pressure turbine section before exiting from an outlet 530.

FIG. 3 schematically shows details of the transmission 46. A forward end of the low shaft 25 is coupled to a sun gear 52 (or other high speed input to the speed reduction mechanism). The externally-toothed sun gear 52 is encircled by a number of externally-toothed star gears 56 and an internally-toothed ring gear 54. The exemplary ring gear is coupled to the fan to rotate with the fan as a unit.

The star gears 56 are positioned between and enmeshed with the sun gear and ring gear. A cage or star carrier assembly 60 carries the star gears via associated journals 62. The exemplary star carrier is substantially irrotatably mounted relative via fingers 404 to the case 22.

Another transmission/gearbox combination has the star carrier connected to the fan and the ring is fixed to the fixed structure (case) is possible and such is commonly referred to as a planetary gearbox.

The speed reduction ratio is determined by the ratio of diameters within the gearbox. An exemplary reduction is between about 2:1 and about 13:1.

The exemplary fan (FIG. 1) comprises a circumferential array of blades 70. Each blade comprises an airfoil 72 having a leading edge 74 and a trailing edge 76 and extending from an inboard end 78 at a platform to an outboard end 80 (i.e., a free tip). The outboard end 80 is in close facing proximity to a rub strip 82 along an interior surface 84 of the nacelle and fan case.

To mount the engine to the aircraft wing 92, a pylon 94 is mounted to the fan case and/or to the other engine cases. The exemplary pylon 94 may be as disclosed in U.S. patent application Ser. No. 11/832,107 (US2009/0056343A1). The pylon comprises a forward mount 100 and an aft/rear mount 102. The forward mount may engage the engine intermediate case (IMC) and the aft mount may engage the engine thrust case. The aft mount reacts at least a thrust load of the engine.

To reduce aircraft fuel burn with turbofans, it is desirable to produce a low pressure turbine with the highest efficiency and lowest weight possible. Further, there are considerations of small size (especially radial size) that benefit the aerodynamic shape of the engine cowling and allow room for packaging engine subsystems.

FIG. 2 shows the low pressure turbine section 27 as comprising an exemplary three blade stages 200, 202, 204. An exemplary blade stage count is 2-6, more narrowly, 2-4, or 2-3, 3-5, or 3-4. Interspersed between the blade stages are vane stages 206 and 208. Each exemplary blade stage comprises a disk 210, 212, and 214, respectively. A circumferential array of blades extends from peripheries of each of the disks. Each exemplary blade comprises an airfoil 220 extending from an inner diameter (ID) platform 222 to an outer diameter (OD) shroud 224 (shown integral with the airfoil

An alternative may be an unshrouded blade with a rotational gap between the tip of the blade and a stationary blade outer air seal (BOAS). Each exemplary shroud 224 has outboard sealing ridges which seal with abradable seals (e.g., honeycomb) fixed to the case. The exemplary vanes in stages 206 and 208 include airfoils 230 extending from ID platforms 232 to OD shrouds 234. The exemplary OD shrouds 234 are directly mounted to the case. The exemplary platforms 232 carry seals for sealing with inter-disk knife edges protruding outwardly from inter-disk spacers which may be separate from the adjacent disks or unitarily formed with one of the adjacent disks.

Each exemplary disk 210, 212, 214 comprises an enlarged central annular protuberance or “bore” 240, 242, 244 and a thinner radial web 246, 248, 250 extending radially outboard from the bore. The bore imparts structural strength allowing the disk to withstand centrifugal loading which the disk would otherwise be unable to withstand.

A turbofan engine is characterized by its bypass ratio (mass flow ratio of air bypassing the core to air passing through the core) and the geometric bypass area ratio (ratio of fan duct annulus area outside/outboard of the low pressure compressor section inlet (i.e., at location 260 in FIG. 1) to low pressure compressor section inlet annulus area (i.e., at location 262 in FIG. 2). High bypass engines typically have bypass area ratio of at least four. There has been a correlation between increased bypass area ratio and increased low pressure turbine section radius and low pressure turbine section airfoil count. As is discussed below, this correlation may be broken by having an engine with relatively high bypass area ratio and relatively low turbine size.

By employing a speed reduction mechanism (e.g., a transmission) to allow the low pressure turbine section to turn very fast relative to the fan and by employing low pressure turbine section design features for high speed, it is possible to create a compact turbine module (e.g., while producing the same amount of thrust and increasing bypass area ratio). The exemplary transmission is a epicyclic transmission. Alternative transmissions include composite belt transmissions, metal chain belt transmissions, fluidic transmissions, and electric means (e.g., a motor/generator set where the turbine turns a generator providing electricity to an electric motor which drives the fan).

Compactness of the turbine is characterized in several ways. Along the compressor and turbine sections, the core gaspath extends from an inboard boundary (e.g., at blade hubs or outboard surfaces of platforms of associated blades and vanes) to an outboard boundary (e.g., at blade tips and inboard surfaces of blade outer air seals for unshrouded blade tips and at inboard surfaces of OD shrouds of shrouded blade tips and at inboard surfaces of OD shrouds of the vanes). These boundaries may be characterized by radii RI and RO, respectively, which vary along the length of the engine.

For low pressure turbine radial compactness, there may be a relatively high ratio of radial span (RO-RI) to radius (RO or RI). Radial compactness may also be expressed in the hub-to-tip ratio (RI:RO). These may be measured at the maximum RO location in the low pressure turbine section. The exemplary compact low pressure turbine section has a hub-to-tip ratio close to about 0.5 (e.g., about 0.4-0.5 or about 0.42-0.48, with an exemplary about 0.46).

Another characteristic of low pressure turbine radial compactness is relative to the fan size. An exemplary fan size measurement is the maximum tip radius RTmax of the fan blades. An exemplary ratio is the maximum RO along the low pressure turbine section to RTmax of the fan blades. Exemplary values for this ratio are less than about 0.55 (e.g., about 0.35-55), more narrowly, less than about 0.50, or about 0.35-0.50.

To achieve compactness the designer may balance multiple physical phenomena to arrive at a system solution as defined by the low pressure turbine hub-to-tip ratio, the fan maximum tip radius to low pressure turbine maximum RO ratio, the bypass area ratio, and the bypass area ratio to low pressure turbine airfoil count ratio. These concerns include, but are not limited to: a) aerodynamics within the low pressure turbine, b) low pressure turbine blade structural design, c) low pressure turbine disk structural design, and d) the shaft connecting the low pressure turbine to the low pressure compressor and speed reduction device between the low pressure compressor and fan. These physical phenomena may be balanced in order to achieve desirable performance, weight, and cost characteristics.

The addition of a speed reduction device between the fan and the low pressure compressor creates a larger design space because the speed of the low pressure turbine is decoupled from the fan. This design space provides great design variables and new constraints that limit feasibility of a design with respect to physical phenomena. For example the designer can independently change the speed and flow area of the low pressure turbine to achieve optimal aerodynamic parameters defined by flow coefficient (axial flow velocity/wheel speed) and work coefficient (wheel speed/square root of work). However, this introduces structural constraints with respect blade stresses, disk size, material selection, etc.

In some examples, the designer can choose to make low pressure turbine section disk bores much thicker relative to prior art turbine bores and the bores may be at a much smaller radius RB. This increases the amount of mass at less than a “self sustaining radius”. Another means is to choose disk materials of greater strength than prior art such as the use of wrought powdered metal disks to allow for extremely high centrifugal blade pulls associated with the compactness.

Another variable in achieving compactness is to increase the structural parameter AN2 which is the annulus area of the exit of the low pressure turbine divided by the low pressure turbine rpm squared at its redline or maximum speed. Relative to prior art turbines, which are greatly constrained by fan blade tip mach number, a very wide range of AN2 values can be selected and optimized while accommodating such constraints as cost or a countering, unfavorable trend in low pressure turbine section shaft dynamics. In selecting the turbine speed (and thereby selecting the transmission speed ratio, one has to be mindful that at too high a gear ratio the low pressure turbine section shaft (low shaft) will become dynamically unstable.

The higher the design speed, the higher the gear ratio will be and the more massive the disks will become and the stronger the low pressure turbine section disk and blade material will have to be. All of these parameters can be varied simultaneously to change the weight of the turbine, its efficiency, its manufacturing cost, the degree of difficulty in packaging the low pressure turbine section in the core cowling and its durability. This is distinguished from a prior art direct drive configuration, where the high bypass area ratio can only be achieved by a large low pressure turbine section radius. Because that radius is so very large and, although the same variables (airfoil turning, disk size, blade materials, disk shape and materials, etc.) are theoretically available, as a practical matter economics and engine fuel burn considerations severely limit the designer's choice in these parameters.

Another characteristic of low pressure turbine section size is airfoil count (numerical count of all of the blades and vanes in the low pressure turbine). Airfoil metal angles can be selected such that airfoil count is low or extremely low relative to a direct drive turbine. In known prior art engines having bypass area ratio above 6.0 (e.g. 8.0-20), low pressure turbine sections involve ratios of airfoil count to bypass area ratio above 190.

With the full range of selection of parameters discussed above including, disk bore thickness, disk material, hub to tip ratio, and RO/RTmax , the ratio of airfoil count to bypass area ratio may be below about 170 to as low as 10. (e.g., below about 150 or an exemplary about 10-170, more narrowly about 10-150). Further, in such embodiments the airfoil count may be below about 1700, or below about 1600.

FIG. 4 shows an embodiment 600, wherein there is a fan drive turbine 608 driving a shaft 606 to in turn drive a fan rotor 602. A gear reduction 604 may be positioned between the fan drive turbine 608 and the fan rotor 602. This gear reduction 604 may be structured and operate like the gear reduction disclosed above. A compressor rotor 610 is driven by an intermediate pressure turbine 612, and a second stage compressor rotor 614 is driven by a turbine rotor 216. A combustion section 618 is positioned intermediate the compressor rotor 614 and the turbine section 616.

FIG. 5 shows yet another embodiment 700 wherein a fan rotor 702 and a first stage compressor 704 rotate at a common speed. The gear reduction 706 (which may be structured as disclosed above) is intermediate the compressor rotor 704 and a shaft 708 which is driven by a low pressure turbine section.

One or more embodiments have been described. Nevertheless, it will be understood that various modifications may be made. For example, when reengineering from a baseline engine configuration, details of the baseline may influence details of any particular implementation. Accordingly, other embodiments are within the scope of the following claims.